One things that has always troubled me when buying a sleeping bag is the temperature rating. When looking at a bag that claims to be a +15°F bag (for example) how do I know that it is really good down to 15 degrees Fahrenheit (preferably without buying it)?

Is the rating just determined by the manufacturer, or is there any sort of independent validation/criteria on these ratings?

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    They have a person sleep in it under increasingly cold temperatures until they freeze to death. It is incredibly challenging for the human-resource departments of bag manufacturers.
    – Lost
    Commented Mar 21, 2012 at 12:07

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Sadly, in North America, there is no rating beyond what each manufacturer decides for itself. I suspect that in the US especially, some thought goes into liability (i.e. if someone freezes to death in a bag that's rated to 0F and it's 20F out, they could be in trouble). Certain manufacturers gain a reputation for conservative ratings, others for optimistic ratings... and sadly, some manufacturers are all over the map (i.e. don't use an internally consistent rating system at all).

Fortunately, there is a standard that is (hopefully) coming to North America, called EN 13537. It is currently applied to all bags in the EU and certain manufacturers elsewhere.

The standard establishes a way to test sleeping bags, and then provides each bag with a set of ratings from an lower "you won't die" limit, all the way up to "you will be sweaty" upper limit.

There's another wrinkle though, which is that a lot of the warmth people attribute to their "awesome" sleeping bag, comes from a combination of other factors: sleeping pad R-value, sleeping clothing, tent heat retention, site selection, and what I'll call metabolism (i.e. whether you are a "cold" or "hot" sleeper).

So when you ask whether a 15F bag is really good to 15F, I'd say that it's impossible to know without getting the bag and trying it, at least in North America. I think if you know you have controlled all the other variables, and are a "hot" sleeper, with research you can likely find out which manufacturers are conservative raters, and go with them. In Europe, you'd just need to know where you fit in their spectrum of ratings and buy similar bags to that in a different temperature range (much easier!).

An example that might help explain what I'm talking about:

  • Great answer, it tells me what I really need to know which is that (a)-I can't trust it to be consistent from bag to bag and (b)-someone else's rating may not mean anything to me due to all the confounding factors you list. Commented Mar 19, 2012 at 5:52
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    Some of these ratings actually use an "average female" and "average male," and list the temperatures at which an "average male" would survive (sleepless night), etc. I find the ratings stupidly confusing, and until you've used several bags it's hard to get a personal reading on it.
    – Greg.Ley
    Commented Mar 21, 2012 at 6:16
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    I think the advantage of the system is that once you establish where you fit on the spectrum, you would be able to buy bags from any manufacturer with that knowledge... For buying your first bag, I agree - likely useless :)
    – Ryley
    Commented Mar 21, 2012 at 15:30
  • When I bought a bag in New Zealand, it had two temperatures given: A comfort temperature, i.e., you'll be warm and sleep well; and a survival rating, i.e., you'll be awake all night cursing the cold but you won't freeze to death.
    – Lagerbaer
    Commented Mar 27, 2012 at 15:51
  • You are right, there are lots of factors/side effects but if I want to choose a proper bag things have to be comparable. As you said this is difficult in America. It's e.g. said here that an American "850 cuin" translates into European "800 cuin".
    – Wills
    Commented Jun 16, 2016 at 18:28

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