Reading the instructions here about making my own sleeping bag/top quilt and it got me thinking, if I can make a temporary seal on one end (Velcro, buttons, zips, etc) I could vary the amount of stuffing, removing excess in summer and overstuffing in winter.

Is there any reason that this wouldn't work? Some links to maker sites would be much appreciated as well.

  • I think you biggest issue is the "seal" coming open and you loosing all you stuffing. This would be no joke on the top of a mountain in bad weather...
    – user2766
    Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 12:42
  • @Liam that might be an issue, so ensuring a good sealing edge is something to bear in mind
    – Chris J
    Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 13:27
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    Why would that be desirable as compared to, say, two quilts which zip together (I'm thinking of winter jackets with removable layers)? It would be less messy than pulling out stuffing every season. Also, although this is for an outdoors application, you might get good answers on the Crafts stackexchange.
    – user812786
    Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 15:25
  • @whrrgarbl two quilts might be a way forward, however it would be double the material (on the outside layer) and I think that packing them individually would not give me the same compression rate. I might try Crafts if I get no answers here, however after a quick look I can't see anything related to the making of camping gear
    – Chris J
    Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 15:39
  • Hmm, maybe a duvet style - one heavier outer layer with thin lightweight fabric for the inner quilts? (I don't know how compression would be affected and can't see the Instructables link from here, so I'm not sure it's worth writing an answer yet.) Anyways if you don't have luck here, it would definitely be on-topic at crafts, plenty of material-selection and "how do I make this feature.." questions :)
    – user812786
    Commented Aug 22, 2016 at 15:57

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Before I answer your question about variable stuffing, I think you could do better for your basic sources on MYOG quilt design and construction.

Some good info on quilt design

The benefits of Karo Step baffles, plus design tips

Calculating down fill requirements

Some innovative ideas from Colin Ibbotson

Useful videos on construction

A comprehensive walk-through of a Karo project

Time-saving tips for sewing Karo baffles

A good source of down

For the down itself, I'd recommend DownLinens Premium Washed Down with the Water Resistant (WR) finish. This is the down used by many of the top manufacturers, directly from the source. The WR finish is the best on the market, according to many industry insiders. Not cheap, but very high quality.

A variable stuffing quilt?

I don't think many people do this, and there is a pretty good reason. Quality down is difficult stuff to handle, so adding and subtracting it from your quilt would be a pretty major faff.

Colin Ibbotson is known for his innovative gear designs, but even he couldn't think of a way to make it practical. He considered "pods" of down contained in gauze, but rejected this on weight grounds. I also can't see how pods would allow you to distribute and loft the down properly.

The main benefit of a sealable opening might be to overfill the quilt gradually as the down deteriorates. This could extend the life of the quilt over the years at the cost of a little extra weight.

For comfort, a Karo Step design allows you to move down around the quilt very easily to add or reduce insulation as the temperature changes - just work some down to the edges if you want to cool down. Plus a quilt is inherently quite flexible as you can fully or partially cover your body at will. So the only real penalty for carrying an over-specced quilt is weight.

My personal approach is to build a quilt that will deal with the lowest temperature I'm likely to encounter, as I hate sleeping cold. The difference between a 2 season quilt and a 3 season quilt is only around 200 grams. The places I walk can always have a sudden cold snap so personally I'm not that fussed about the extra weight in warmer weather.

If 200g is a big deal for you, you could make a 2 season quilt for summer and a 3 season quilt for the elbow seasons. Then layer them in the winter for very cold conditions, with 2 quilts covering all your needs short of arctic or high altitude work. Just make one of the quilts large enough to drape over the other without draughts. For hard-core winter camping two quilts will be slightly heavier than a dedicated winter quilt, but they will be quicker to dry when you're dealing with condensation.

You'll find a lot more on YouTube and BackpackingLight.com if you search for "MYOG quilt". There are also kits on offer from a number of suppliers.

Hope this is of some use!

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    These links are great, I think a Karo style quilt will give me the same effect without the down sides of shifting stuffing
    – Chris J
    Commented Aug 23, 2016 at 7:45

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