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What are strategies for successful baking on the trail where wood fires are not allowed? I am particularly interested in

  • Pizza
  • Cookies
  • Pies
  • Corn Bread
  • Possible duplicate of outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/4245 – James Jenkins Dec 2 '16 at 10:30
  • There are some camping ovens available. I've used one while trekking. They are not heavy and work fine. I've made from scratch, scones and cakes. Unfortunately they have a funny name and I can't find a image. – Desorder Dec 4 '16 at 21:17
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    I don't think this is a duplicate; the article linked was soliciting for recipes for food. This is soliciting for technique. – user11609 Dec 5 '16 at 15:11
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For pizza, I do it in a frying pan with cornmeal under it to keep it from sticking. A lid helps a little. For corn bread, I make "corn pone", again in the frying pan. You didn't mention regular bread, but I make English muffins, again the frying pan. These all work spectacularly well - the taste and flavor and just what you want and there's no sense of "if only we could have baked" at all.

One of my camping companions loves to make "scrambled brownies" which might work in the cookie category. You make up brownie mix (she uses a just-add-water box) and then cook it in a frying pan stirring a lot as though it was scrambled eggs. I can report the result tastes like brownies and is nice in the middle of a trip when food is getting a bit boring.

For pies, you're going to have to actually bake, and while I don't do that, there are plenty of people who do. You can get special lightweight lidded pots, heat reflectors and suchlike. Me, I wait and have pie when I get home.

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    And here I thought I was fancy when I cooked a steak while backpacking. Now I have all kinds of ideas – Erik Dec 2 '16 at 15:56
  • Could you expand on the cornpone? Is it to cornbread as scrambled brownies are to brownies? Or what? I'd rather have cornbread than brownies any day. – ab2 Dec 2 '16 at 21:56
  • My recipe is in with my camping kitchen stuff, but it's a cornbread-ish batter that you shape into patties (pones) and fry. No scrambling. When they're done, they're easy to split like english muffins - and if you put some cheese between warm corn pone halves, you're having a good day. – Kate Gregory Dec 3 '16 at 1:52
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There it is.

You get one of those and you can bake anything you want. I've used before and it's awesome.

Edit --- Just updated with a link to MEC website. They seem to have it in stock

Outback oven

Below is how it works.

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  • I Clicked on the link and found it is 1 pound, 10 oz (not too bad) .... but, no longer available. I was told "don't go just yet" and directed to "similar products": they were camp sinks. Sure, I want an oven but I'll buy a sink instead. – ab2 Dec 4 '16 at 22:43
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    Sorry. I only saw quickly as I'm at work. I don't think the kitchen sink is going to do a good job baking anything.... :) I can try to find that product in different brands later on and update the link. – Desorder Dec 4 '16 at 23:05
  • +1 REI specs said 1 lb 10 oz and made in USA. MEC specs say 450 grams (just under one pound) and made in China -- but not cheap at $102. If I were really in the market for this, and not just curious, I'd want to compare the specs closely. – ab2 Dec 5 '16 at 4:24
  • To be fair, it a bit of a novelty item. Xgirlfriend's dad had one of those. We borrowed it while Trekking a few times in trips that were either nice short ones or long weekends with short days. A regular weekend trip for me starts on Friday after work walking for 2 to 4 hours depending on the driving, walking another 8 hours on Saturday and walking as far as need it to get back to the car. I/we cover something from 35 to 50 km by the time I'm back to the car. These kind of items don't make to the pack. :) – Desorder Dec 5 '16 at 18:56
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If you don't mind packing the extra weight (you didn't say that you were backpacking), bring along a cast iron dutch oven. You can do all those things and more. Their utility is matched only by their weight.

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    Whoopsie, I didn't notice the backpacking tag. Still, if you don't mind the weight... ;-) – B540Glenn Dec 2 '16 at 20:35
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The problem is that baking generally requires heating a large volume of air to a fairly high temperature and so is not very fuel efficient if you aren't already using a wood fire for other purposes (ie heating and boiling water)

If you really want baked-ish food on the trail with a stove then thin foods like pancakes and flatbread are your best bet as these can be cooked in a shallow pan fairly quickly, although when fuel is at a premium these will never be as efficient as boiling or re-hydrating foods like cous-cous, pre-cooked rice or per-packaged stews etc.

Bear in mind also that pre-coked cookies, flatbread ect will last for a good few days so you don't need to cook them fresh every day indeed packaged flatbread can last for weeks.

You can get reasonably lightweight camping ovens and it is certainly not impossible to improvise one from natural materials at your campsite but fuel is the real problem.

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Backpacking != baking.

You can do it, but you have to lug around a lot of stuff to do it. Perhaps, you can take advantage of what is already around you? By this I mean build your oven, and take only your stove with you. It'll take some practice and know-how to pull it off. But once you figure out how to build a pizza oven with a cardboard box and aluminum foil, it's not hard to come up with your own ideas.

So a idea comes to mind, which I borrow from the book "shelters, shacks, and shanties", by none other than D.C. Beard, you might make your own oven out of rocks and boughs you find along the trail. I wouldn't advise yanking branches from trees, as recommended by Beard, that's not very PC these days.

You'll want to build a fireplace log-cabin style. That is: lay two sticks in parallel, about 2' apart; then lay two more sticks perpendicular to the first to; and keep on alternating until you get about 3' high.

Now, since you indicated a need to use the backpacker's stove, what you'll want to do is build a flat course, maybe 12" high, so that the stove can comfortably sit underneath. So lay as many sticks as can sit side-by-side for this layer. The sticks should be sparse on one end, to allow heat to come through it. After the first course, you have a sort of flat area to lay your food onto it, you continue to build up; but now you have to cover the sides to keep heat in. Here's where the boughs come in; perhaps you can use wet leaves, or bunched up vines. Or maybe you have aluminum foil. Of course, the top of the fireplace also needs to be solid just as the first course.

So what you are now left with is a raised log-cabin style fireplace, with the backpacker's stove at the bottom and completely visible. You need this on the outer part of the oven, or else you could have a fire hazard where the fuel bakes with the food. If anything, you at least need good air flow, or some fuels will refuse to burn, such as those which are weak at high altitudes (butane and propane, for example.)

And so the bottom of the oven is the ground where the stove goes; the next layer is the floor of the oven, and is as big in volume as you need to cook your food; and the next layer is the roof. The sides are stuffed with wood or boughs to keep the heat in.

You'll need an opening; you might fashion one side of the log cabin to do this; you just need to be creative with having a 4th open side which allows to support the two sides. Maybe some sticks or Y branches can help here.

The downside to this is that you rely on mother nature to provide your materials. We all know how cooperative mother nature can be...


Another idea is to bring a collapsible cardboard box, and some aluminum foil. As you begin to prepare, cover the interior of the box with foil. Make a hole in the floor of the box, that's where the heat will come in; then suspend the box about 12" off the ground - just like in the first course of the log-cabin stick method I mentioned.

The downside to this method is that you have to carry the box with you. Could be cumbersome, if not heavy.


Another idea is to build yourself an aluminum box that can collapse. Otherwise, it is constructed the same way as the cardboard box, with a hole at the bottom.

The downside to this is the amount of preparation you'll have to do ahead of time. However, there are tons of plans to make something like this on the internet.


Another idea is to use two frying pans, one placed atop and upside down over the other. The downside to this is the pans can be cumbersome. And you'll need rather large pans to pull off a meal.


You didn't specify fuel you'll be using. I do NOT recommend using white gas or any liquid fuel (especially kerosene or gasoline) as all of them give off an bad odor which will be picked up on your food.

Also, if your oven is small, you run the risk of setting the whole thing on fire. What you could do is boil water as you bake. The steam given off would help prevent that. Also, soak all of the wood in water before using. And for the walls, use green leaves or rocks.

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