# How fast does a climbing rope recover its dynamic properties after a fall?

The defining feature of a climbing rope (arguably) is its dynamic properties, i.e. it stops your fall gradually to decrease the peak force. Not exceeding a fixed peak force is a/the integral criterion in the norming procedure of climbing ropes. It is clear, that hard falls deteriorate the rope long-term, i.e. it loses some of this ability to break gradually and thus needs eventually needs to be retired.

However I am not interested in this long-term effect, but the immediate effects after a fall. Even if the rope behaved like a perfect elastic and linear string, there would be a characteristic time after elongation until it is back in its "initial" state. However a climbing rope is not perfectly elastic (and definitely not linear), e.g. in this fall experiment during the "second bounce" the breaking phase starts lower than on the first (rope still elongated).

How long does it take until a climbing rope is (approximately) in its initial state after a fall?

By initial state I mean same length and same breaking characteristics. And by same I mean equal except for the long-term effects the fall has on the ropes characteristics.

I am aware that there is most likely no single answer, i.e. it depends on factors like rope, fall factor, climber weight, ... — but I am interested in any (hard) information on the magnitude for any scenario that could happen when climbing.

Motivation:

There is this phrase among friends that "whatever doesn't hold you at least brakes" (loosely translated, sounds better in its original variant :P ). That's obviously mostly fun, but I'd still be interested whether it has some truth or is totally counter productive, i.e. the elongation on the failing protection causes less dynamic breaking on the second pro, thus net higher forces than if the failing pro wasn't used in the first place..

• Out of curiosity, what's the original wording of the phrase you mentioned? May 24, 2018 at 13:32
• @fgysin It's not that catchy, just sounded really bad in English: "Was nöd hebt bremst". May 24, 2018 at 14:00
• The German word "bremst" means "brakes", not "breaks". Which changes the meaning of that saying quite a bit. May 24, 2018 at 17:20
• You can write it as "That which breaks at least brakes". May 24, 2018 at 21:55
• @Acccumulation +1 for that but I'd suggest: "Rope that breaks, still brakes." but yeah, we are deep in English lit. SE territory =) May 25, 2018 at 10:00

Black Diamond did a study on this, and even after 24 hours of resting, there was still a noticeably increased load on the second fall.

Allowing the rope to rest 24 hours still resulted in a 2nd drop load of 11% greater than the first drop

QC LAB: Do ropes need to rest between falls?

They concluded,

Loosening your knot, or letting the rope rest prior to a fall reduces the impact load on the top piece of gear by a small amount. However, using a different rope for each burn or switching ends of the rope would provide a greater benefit. And of course the best way to keep the forces on the top piece of gear to a minimum is to not fall in the first place.

QC LAB: Do ropes need to rest between falls?

If you want more information, I would suggest reading the whole article.

• I was wondering why I didn't find anything by the BD guys - I was searching the wrong terms :) Thanks for digging it up. This might already be the answer, if the short term (i.e. seconds) effect is in the same order (20% increase) as the measured 2nd fall after 5min. However that's obviously much harder to test. May 24, 2018 at 14:59