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Someone suggested using a Safety Spark Bunsen Burner/Laboratory Lighter with 5 Flints to start tinder for an emergency fire. I don't currently own one so can't try it. I have used them to light flammable gases and they are great for that. Logistically I am not sure they would work well to light tinder to start a wood fire.

Can anyone see a way to make it work?

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  • Glad you asked. I have an older version (no flints just steel on steel) sitting 5 feet away from me. I am willing to play around with it, but I need guidance as to what to use for tinder. Problem: It has been raining here almost non-stop since June, or maybe May, and nothing outside is really dry. What should I start with -- shredded Kleenex? A small pile of Q-tip tips? A pile of finely cut film negative -- but I'm not sure I have that.
    – ab2
    Sep 17, 2018 at 1:49
  • is that very different from a fire striker?
    – njzk2
    Sep 17, 2018 at 2:22
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    It looks like a big enough spark for light tinder. It also looks kind of big. I wouldn't bring it over most other lighters and I can't imagine many survival situations in which it's my only source of fire. But as a fun experiment, sure, go for it. Try toilet paper first as a bit of a standard. If you can get and dry any birch bark that's a good natural tinder to test.
    – Monster
    Sep 17, 2018 at 5:15
  • @Aaron I took a closer look, and there is a flint there. A very old flint. I tried shredded Kleenex and got a very small spot of char once. Someone with better technique and more patience should try it.
    – ab2
    Sep 17, 2018 at 21:30
  • @Aaron Weeks?!? Well, it will be hard, but I will wait. Unless you live in the DC area, then you can pick up mine.
    – ab2
    Sep 18, 2018 at 21:47

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The technical answer is simply: yes. But that answer would be deceiving, so...

Can it be done?

Yes. It throws out some decent sparks. The device works by scraping a tiny piece of flint over steel. In that regard, this should be no different than any other flint & steel fire lighting, with the exception of the awkward cup.

See later section for the evidence of this device being used to start wood fires.

Should it be done?

Given the results of my tests, I would say no.

It is possible, given perfect tinder, but even then it is unwieldy. You could remove the small piece of flint from the moving arm-piece and try to strike it differently, but the flint is so tiny that would also be awkward.

I see no reason to use this unwieldy device for something it was not designed for. If your concern is being prepared, just spend $5 for a ferro rod and have that on hand. Its sparks should be easier to use, and they are much better sparks.

But I just mean, like, what if zombie apocalypse comes and this is all I have?

If, for some reason, you actually are forced into a situation where you have to use this, and only this, then put most of your effort into processing some really good tinder.

If you're truly concerned, buy a ferrocerium rod (aka: ferro rod, flint rod) now and duct-tape it to the side of that thing. When the apocalypse happens and that device is all you have, remove the ferro rod you've duct-taped to the side of it and use that instead.

Ok fine, but still, out of curiosity, let's try anyway.

So I went ahead and bought one to try this out. It was a great excuse to say I need to go light a fire.

Test 1: Char-cloth tinder

As I suspected, this was fairly easy with char cloth.

Initially it seemed to not be working when I held the char cloth over the cup of the device, and its failure surprised me. I think that the sparks were not hot enough to create an ember by the time they were exiting the cup, despite being hot enough to see.

After that initial failure, I tried keeping the char cloth inside the cup, as close to the origination point of the sparks as I could. As expected, the char cloth then caught the sparks and held an ember without too much difficulty. The worst part is keeping the char cloth in place, as the striker keeps pushing it out of the way and sometimes making it fall out of the cup. It also rips the char cloth up, so you need to be careful of that.

Once the char cloth had an ember, the rest was fire starting 101: the char cloth was used to light grass and wood shavings.

Apparently I forgot to take close up pictures before I did this first test. Sorry. But here is a video of it.

Wood fire lit by bunsen burner spark lighter and char cloth

Test 2: Natural tinder

To be completely true to the context of your question, I thought it best to do a test which used nothing but naturally sourced materials, with the exception of the device itself obviously.

I had to dry out some materials to use for this. I manually tumble-dried some dandelion seed fluff in a clear plastic trash bag by hand. I had some half-decent quality dried grass and wood shavings, and I dehydrated it for a few minutes so it was better for fire starting.

Here is a close up picture of what I used:

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Dandelion seed fluff takes a spark fairly easily and it often flares up quickly, but it dies out very fast.

Below is a link to a video of the test, but full disclosure!: 1) The fire that started did not catch fully and went out after a few seconds. 2) The video makes it look super easy, but I cut out multiple unsuccessful attempts before it finally flared up into a tiny fire and a couple unsuccessful attempts to re-light the kindling after the fire died out.

Wood fire lit by bunsen burner spark lighter with all natural tinder and kindling

Despite the fire not successfully lighting fully, a flame was achieved which is definitely more than enough to start a fire, so I am calling the test itself a success. Yes, it is not easy, but you can definitely light a wood fire with a bunsen burner flint-spark lighter using good quality all natural tinder and kindling.

What next?

To then go the next step and use that lit tinder to start a fire, you would do it the traditional way, no matter whether you used charcloth or some other tinder. So anything past initially sparking your tinder is answered by all the other "How to start a fire?" questions.

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  • Dryer lint after doing a load of non-synthetic stuff works well as tinder. Birch bark, shredded to under 1/16". Weed seed fluff, poplar fluff, cattail fluff all work. If you make a game of it, you are constantly on the lookout for stuff to use. Key is that is has to be bone dry. So you collect during dry days, and carry with you . Sep 23, 2018 at 15:45
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    This is taking research on SE to a new level!
    – ab2
    Sep 24, 2018 at 19:27

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