Hi I am a new boulderer and have climbed many difficult routes, or official ones for that matter. Currently when I am not able to go out the local region, I attempt to send the side of my house. The brick wall is about 6 or 7 moves, all closed crimp until the last move which is a jug. The grooves between the bricks are about 1/2 a centimeter wide. It is at a 90o angle with the ground. There are holds everwhere because the bricks are only 5cm tall. I can post pictures on request. What do you think would be an appropriate rating for this route?

Sorry if this question is off topic, I haven't seen others like it closed on here and it doesn't seem to be against the rules

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    Without actually trying it, it's not going to be easy to guess. There are so many other variables that could affect a rating.
    – Rory Alsop
    Jul 23, 2014 at 13:55
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    it's impossible to rate a route without see and climb it. it depends on distance from reach hold, position and a lot other factors.
    – ibex
    Jul 23, 2014 at 14:04
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    We. Demand. Pics!
    – Wills
    Jul 23, 2014 at 14:22
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    You should invite an experienced climber to give it a try, and a rating.
    – Mr.Wizard
    Jul 23, 2014 at 14:36
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    Invite Chris Sharma, Dave Graham, Nalle Hukkataival and Daniel Woods to your house...They just recently scaled the Bridge of Pilgrims, high above the river Arga in Spain....They'll be able to rate your brick problem with the most accuracy.
    – AM_Hawk
    Jul 23, 2014 at 15:40

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Unlike others, I think the route is pretty well described. There's basically a lot of flat, useable feet and a lot of flat crimp holds that are roughly 1/2 cm thick on a 90-degree wall. I think the grade depends on an accurate measurement of the crimp width--the grade could change +/-1 V grade if the thickness changes just by a couple mm. It also could depend significantly on the roughness and texture of the brick surface.

But based on a 5 mm thick crimp (less than 1/4 of your finger pad), new brick, and assuming you can use any brick "hold", I would say a close grade would be V2/V3.

  • Awesome thanks! Just wondering, what holds/foot work would you use? I can really only image crimping and maybe smearing Jul 23, 2014 at 19:43
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    Assuming the bricks have the same width on the underside as the top side, I would think you can pinch the bricks instead of just crimping, which could help to hold you against the wall. For footwork, it seems like a lot of edging rather than smearing.
    – shimizu
    Jul 23, 2014 at 19:54
  • But you can introduce a lot of interesting movement by taping only certain bricks or parts of the brick to be used. For example, I can imagine how you could incorporate gastons, underclings, side pulls, and dead points with a simple brick wall, which would also change the difficulty.
    – shimizu
    Jul 23, 2014 at 19:59
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    +1 for this for actually being helpful instead of debating whether the question should be closed. I think the idiots that debate every question to be closed will ultimately kill this site. So I appreciate that @shimizu actually answered it. Aug 1, 2014 at 16:53

As I wrote above, it's hard to rate this wall.

But you can challenge yourself and mark some routes on the wall with colored tape, and then you can also see a progress in your climbing, or you can leave a given hold and try to go to the next, or do it dynamically, or use not all your fingers to hold.

I have a selfmade boulderwall in our house and that is how I marked my routes as well :)

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    a boulder in your house? Cool.
    – Rory Alsop
    Jul 23, 2014 at 20:09
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    sorry this comment was a bit unclear. i made a boulder wall in our house. corrected the answer. but it would be great to have a real boulder in our house.
    – ibex
    Jul 24, 2014 at 5:26

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